[Ftblk36]

Just been looking all over the .co.uk sites at all the prohormones and prosteroids being sold. Very few sites give any info about the compounds just what they can do for you. Some sites direct you to the OTC PCT's that they have in stock or what the particular brand says works well with them. On some forum sites guys are talking about leaving OTC PCT alone as they won't do you any good and you should be using Clomid amongst others. I'm just wondering what the facts are. Are OTC PCT's effective in returning the body to it's natural state? Just seems really dodgy with impressionable teenagers/daft adults being able to get their hands on something they don't really understand so easily. I just think its an important topic that I can't really see any real answers to anywhere. Anyone enlighten me?

[andy]

heres how it is for me - pro-hormones = steroids that have been messed with to get around the law for a while. OTC PCT meds arent worth a thing.. nobody cares to/can copy the chemicals used in PCT drugs and stay within the law.. these things are anti-cancer and infertility treatments after all.

i would never, ever trust an OTC supplement as a replacement for PCT... but then again, i wouldnt bother with pro hormones either.

[TheCrazyCal]

i necked every PH maximuscle did and never did a pct and wasnt recommended to by them.
tbh i`d have seen and pct product as probly irrelevant as i`d just spent god knows how much on PH`s lol
i seem to remember they did a detox product but i didnt have a clue about its significance...

pct = nolva/clomid with the option of HCG
there are others but thats the core of it all^^^^

todays prosteroids offer the same gains as presription steroids, possibly with greater sides, but thats probly just statistical..

[Ftblk36]

Think this kinda answers my question and backs up Andy's take on it. Think it's really irresponsible that people aren't made aware of this before purchasing OTC steroids.

http://articles.muscletalk.co.uk/articl ... roids.aspx

[TheCrazyCal]

the supplement industry is as ruthless as the sex industry bud.

if they can screw you they will.(and you wont get a reach around)

its just business...

[andy]

most of these things are made by people who dont know/care about training in any way.. so why would they give a crap really?

its like when some noob picks up a maximuscle workout routine and thinks it must be good because they sell supps...

i honestly still dont get why people even consider PH's in the UK when its perfectly above the law to use 'proper' steroids.

[TheCrazyCal]

cos theyre not so easy to get.

[andy]

maybe not to some lad in the gym... but with half a brain and a broadband connection, its not the hardest nut to crack is it lol.

my mind was more drawn to london/hammers and the 'im still natty' argument if im honest.

[TheCrazyCal]

my first dbol cost me £30 per 100...
luckily they were real.

i still dont really know how good they were...

these days i like to know these things...